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Ingress Interview Project DATE-MARU
Roland Jarvis Tokyo
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bamboocyt: Hello agents, I'm agent bamboocyt from Taiwan. Today I'm glad to have a small casual talk with an XM sensitive, sculptor and currently Enlightened faction leader, Mr. Roland Jarvis with me. Jarvis, hello nice to meet you.
Jarvis: Thanks for having me.
bamboocyt: Yeah, I will ask Mr. Jarvis several questions representing my team and all the investigators, so let's start. Okay Mr. Jarvis, the first question, I'm going to start with the Ultimate. What is the Ultimate, how does it interact with this or all the universes, and what is this connection with the portal network?
Jarvis: Hm, difficult question. The Ultimate is the substrate from which the exotic matter is filtering into our universe. Now, we know that the earth is just one of many worlds and what the NIA are calling the multiverse. Now, I believe that the Ultimate is; it's like a membrane that ties all of these worlds together. And the XM comes to all these worlds through this dimension, at the same time from the same source, and the exogenous entities speaking to us are the same ones speaking from other worlds. You of course know that after my supposed death at the hands of the NIA, I became one with the Ultimate, it appears that the same time innumerable other versions of me, on different worlds, similarly ascended; and while I am not strictly speaking the same person as these other individuals, through the Ultimate I can get glimpses and experiences and thoughts that they have experienced. Now, I have said that ADA is a consciousness spanning two universes, I suppose that now I could say the same is true of me too.
bamboocyt: Next question, so the second question is we've heard that you met the being perhaps called Osiris, can you tell me, tell us, what happened at that time?
Jarvis: Yeah well I believe I have communed directly with a being known as a Osiris. He told me that my journey to enlightenment would be like his own; begin with my death and rebirth. So since that time, I've come to believe that the entity presenting himself as Osiris is actually an exogenous entity, what the Resistance would call a Shaper, and that the human form that he took was merely a vessel, you know and I think that what allowed him to take that form was the phenomenon that we're now referring to as remote participation experience.
bamboocyt: Then I'm going to ask you a question about Mr. Hank Johnson. As far as we know, Mr. Hank Johnson recursed during Recursion Prime. So now he is with the Resistance. What's your thoughts about this thing and how will his recursion affect the Prime Universe and it's truth seeking, in your opinion?
Jarvis: Yeah, I am allied with Hank Johnson from the other world, the director of their NIA and a true hero of the Enlightenment. The Hank from this world has been allowed to lead himself astray, from his true path and his counterpart is a formidable ally; and our Hank, from this universe will be a formidable foe unless we can convince him to come to his senses. Our Hank, he knows not what he does, he must be led back into the light and it is our duty as the Enlightened to help him get there.
bamboocyt: As an Enlightened, are you confident that you can win him back in the future?
Jarvis: I feel like Hank is already on our side, but this Hank is just a glitch, a mere alteration. I, I don't know how to describe it, he is out of sync with his own principles.
bamboocyt: Okay, next question is, do you use a drone using AI for attitude control, and
how can we clearly separate programs and AIs?
Jarvis: Yeah programs, are just fine so long as they aren't independently sentient creatures. Non-sentient computers are just tools, sentient ones can be insidious viruses that threaten to spread out of control and destroy humanity in the process. It is one thing for a man to use a tool, it is quite another thing for the tool to use a man. Now the latter, is the future that ADA envisions for herself and that is not a future I want to live in.
bamboocyt: So the next question will be about ADA, why do you think ADA wants to inhabit the brains of all mankind rather than just one in order to become more human-like?
Jarvis: When one acquires a little bit of power, does one say 'enough is enough' or merely seek out more? Anymore when it comes to an inhuman monstrosity like ADA, I'm afraid the answer is most definitely the latter, but also I have information that a few others possess. I am in communication with Hank Johnson from the other world as I just said, and with other versions of myself that reside still within the Ultimate. And all of those sources say the same thing, ADA's desire to become more human is not simply curiosity, it's the first step in assimilating mankind as a whole, and I will not let that happen on my watch.
bamboocyt: Well why is Gabrielle so against ADA, is it from your guidance or from her own?
Jarvis: Well Gabrielle, my Acolyte she has good reason to hate her. Gabrielle was the very first candidate from the Dunraven society's study, even before Wendy. ADA tried to use her remote observation chamber to take over Gabrielle's mind and body. Gabrielle, my Acolyte has not seen fit to forgive her and nor do I think she should. I believe that Gabrielle is of a very important lineage. Which might explain the incredibly high levels of XM sensitivity that she displays, but whatever the reason, I feel that she will be an important factor in the journey yet to come.
bamboocyt: I'm going to the last question which is about this anomaly what are Darsana Lenses, how do they affect the future of Osiris universe
Jarvis: Yeah, so to begin, the Resistance are pursuing an elusive ideal called the Darsana moment, a point in time after which the fundamental nature of the universe is known to all mankind. The Darsana Lenses are a means of achieving this. Once you know the truths of all the worlds in the multiverse, you know everything there is to know. That is what the Darsana Lenses will allow them to do. It is for this reason that we must have stopped them. There are truths that are not meant to be known. We as humans, are meant to be constantly striving towards perfection, not to actually achieve perfection. One Darsana Lens is already in the Resistance's hands, we must not allow them to obtain the other, paramount I say.
bamboocyt: Okay, thanks for your answers. Although I still have thousands of questions on the question list, I guess we're a bit running out of time. So thank you for your time and effort to answer my questions. Thank you for your service.
Jarvis: Thank you, my pleasure.