現実の本質

pac4.pngP.A. シャポー(P.A. Chapeau)
2017/05/16 09:20
私が過去二日間にわたって公開した電子メールの件についてハンク・ジョンソンが触れ、「アマツヤ・ラキシュ」の記述していたやりとりに関する記憶を明かすとともに、真実と現実の本質に関する興味深い寓話を紹介したよ。

ハンク・ジョンソン:
正直に言って、アマツヤと名乗る人物と会った記憶はないのだ。

メールに記載のあったやりとりのことは覚えているよ。二分心のことや問い掛け次第ではあるが人間関係やエクソジェナスとの関係の急変をどのように説明し得るかといったところだね。

我々の多くがその場に居合わせていた。当時の私は学界でさほど名が通ってはいなかったし、公正に評価すれば学界の異端者の類に留まっており、先進的な考察ばかり扱っていたからね。記憶が確かなら、話の中心になって進めていたのはライトであり、人間の思考や行動に対する外因が突然消滅した合理的な解釈として二分心という理論が生まれた可能性を初めて提起したのもライトだったはずだ。

ライトと関わりを持ったことのある諸君であれば、はっきりご存知のことが二点あるだろうね。まず第一に、ライトは大抵の話題で延々と語り続けるし、殊更に愉しんでいる。そして第二に、ライトの提示するアイデアはしばしば魅力的なもので、少なくとも示唆に富んだものだということだ。

科学の積み重ねによって二分心理論を否定されていっているが、エクソジェナス・エラと呼称している時代に関する広範な痕跡の存在を知る我々の多くにとってみれば、今なお謎に包まれていることを上手く説明付ける仮説だ。

我々の運命に積極的に関わる外因の存在した日々があったが、ある日突然に我々は孤立する、そんなことが起きたのだろうか。あるいは科学の先行きに安心や現実に対する自信がそのような考えに至らせているのだろうか。

以前に話題にのぼったことがあるなら申し訳ないが、ナイアンティック研究者のひとりが語ってくれたことを思い出したよ。信仰される神話に疑念を持って真実を見いだすためにそのグルのもとを訪れたこともある人物だね。

その人物はグルへ次のような問い掛けをしていた。

グルよ、あなたは二つの偉大な神々がこの地で戦ったと説いていますね。そのひとつが命を落とし、この山はその骸なのだと。

グルはその通りであると、それは真実だと答えた。

ならばグルよ、その母なる神は我が子の死を嘆き悲しんだという。この海はその母なる神の涙によって生まれたというが、それはまことのことだろうか。

グルはその通りであると言った。そして、そのやりとりは神話が真実であることを問うたびに、取り巻く世界の一面にある存在を説明するたびに続けられていった。

そしてようやく、不満を露わに訪問者は言う。私を取り巻く世界には偉大なる神々などおらぬと。あなたが実際に起きたと言われることを示す証拠を何ひとつ知らぬと。

グルはその問い答え、君はそれがまことのことであるかを知りたいのかね、それとも実際のことなのかどうかを知りたいのかね、と言った。

#InvestigateIngress

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Hank Johnson
2017/05/16 09:18
I'll be honest -- don't recall meeting the person who calls themselves Amaziah.

I do remember the conversation that was mentioned in that email -- the bicameral mind, and how it might explain a sudden change in humanity's relationship with either itself or the Exogenous, depending on how you frame the question.

A number of us were present -- at the time I was not very well known in these highly academic circles (to be fair I'm still kind of an outsider) -- and I mostly hovered around the edges of the discussion. If I remember correctly, it was Wright who was the key driver and who first raised the possibility that the bicameral mind theory could have emerged as a rationalization for the sudden disappearance of an outside influencer on human thought and behavior.

If you've ever been around Wright for a period of time, two things become clear: 1) He will talk endlessly about nearly any subject and enjoy it perhaps more than he should, and 2) Despite this, the ideas he presents are often challenging or at the least thought provoking.

Time and science have largely dismissed the bicameral mind theory, but for those of us who are aware of the vast body of evidence surrounding what -- for lack of a better term -- we call the Exogenous Era, it's a well thought out explanation for something that remains a mystery.

One day, we exist in a fluid system where an outside force may have actively engaged in shaping our destiny. The next day, we were alone. Did this happen, or are we imagining it from the comfort of a scientific future and a mind that conceives reality in a certain, self-assured way?

I recall a story told to me by another Niantic researcher -- and I apologize if I (or they)'ve told this before -- of a person who doubted the myths of their faith and visited a guru to discover the real truth.

This person asked the guru a number of questions:

Guru, you say that two great gods fought here, and one died and this mountain is his body. Is this true?

The guru says yes, this is true...

And guru, you say that this god's mother wept at the loss of her child, and these oceans was formed from her tears. Is this true?

The guru says yes, and the conversation goes on for some time like this -- each time the guru affirming that the myths are true, and explain the presence of every aspect of the world around them.

Finally, the frustrated visitor says: Guru, when I look at the world around me, I see no great gods, I see no evidence to serve that any of these things you claim actually happened.

The guru responds: Did you want to know if these things are true, or did you want to know if they happened?

HANK JOHNSON: THE NATURE OF REAL
May 15, 2017 · by PAC · in Commentary

Hank Johnson weighs in on the emails that I published over the last two days -- sharing his recollections of the conversation described by 'Amaziah Lachish,' as well as an interesting parable about the nature of truth and reality...

TRANSCRIPT:

I'll be honest -- don't recall meeting the person who calls themselves Amaziah.

I do remember the conversation that was mentioned in that email -- the bicameral mind, and how it might explain a sudden change in humanity's relationship with either itself or the Exogenous, depending on how you frame the question.

A number of us were present -- at the time I was not very well known in these highly academic circles (to be fair I'm still kind of an outsider) -- and I mostly hovered around the edges of the discussion. If I remember correctly, it was Wright who was the key driver and who first raised the possibility that the bicameral mind theory could have emerged as a rationalization for the sudden disappearance of an outside influencer on human thought and behavior.ve.xosfjls1rxt1vft.k.lou1zfr.k1vw.k1.arvjprvr.a

If you've ever been around Wright for a period of time, two things become clear: 1) He will talk endlessly about nearly any subject and enjoy it perhaps more than he should, and 2) Despite this, the ideas he presents are often challenging or at the least thought provoking.

Time and science have largely dismissed the bicameral mind theory, but for those of us who are aware of the vast body of evidence surrounding what -- for lack of a better term -- we call the Exogenous Era, it's a well thought out explanation for something that remains a mystery.

One day, we exist in a fluid system where an outside force may have actively engaged in shaping our destiny. The next day, we were alone. Did this happen, or are we imagining it from the comfort of a scientific future and a mind that conceives reality in a certain, self-assured way?

I recall a story told to me by another Niantic researcher -- and I apologize if I (or they)'ve told this before -- of a person who doubted the myths of their faith and visited a guru to discover the real truth.

This person asked the guru a number of questions:

Guru, you say that two great gods fought here, and one died and this mountain is his body. Is this true?

The guru says yes, this is true...

And guru, you say that this god's mother wept at the loss of her child, and these oceans was formed from her tears. Is this true?59foper24cooqwg9

The guru says yes, and the conversation goes on for some time like this -- each time the guru affirming that the myths are true, and explain the presence of every aspect of the world around them.

Finally, the frustrated visitor says: Guru, when I look at the world around me, I see no great gods, I see no evidence to serve that any of these things you claim actually happened.

The guru responds: Did you want to know if these things are true, or did you want to know if they happened?

Hank Johnson via Google+

-PAC

#InvestigateIngress

H. Richard Loeb
2017/05/16 09:20
Hank Johnson weighs in on the emails that I published over the last two days -- sharing his recollections of the conversation described by 'Amaziah Lachish,' as well as an interesting parable about the nature of truth and reality...